Backup Plan. The only thing broken about them is Back up Plan. The consistency with firmly planted and TTT is just so much better than any other roll I’ve tried. And the perk , "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. Nice Broadsword. Team tactics, map knowledge, class builds, loadouts, game modes, gun skills and more. [/quote] Cons - Slow charge rate. Very much depends. The back up plan perk isn’t even a good perk for dedicated fusion rifle users. [quote]and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. Good call on that! if you get quickdraw backup plan welp everyones fucked. 1 year ago on PlayStation. I won't look at your loadout, but I'm guessing you're trying to mindlessly beat a Fusion with a Spam Cannon. HhMmmmmm. Its ability to fire highly accurate bursts at such rapid speeds makes it a hard Legendary to beat. It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. Fusions like Erentil got their range nerfed. The better option is tap the trigger. Erentil, Elatha, even Wizend Rebuke and the new Gallant Charge can all map people. To top it off, the Backup Plan perk which makes fusions so lethal in PvP is being changed to mirror the impact of rapid-fire fusion rifles as well as their charge time. And the perk , "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. [quote]Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. I prefer it over my Erentil.. MP50005. PvP roll: Snapshot Sights, Backup Plan [/quote] Then why did I vault mine? A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the policies documented at, This site uses cookies to provide you with the best possible user experience. Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. If you plan to use Erentil as a secondary, or spend a lot of time with it stowed, this is the best perk. Maintaining? Put a counterbalance mod on it and its like a laser beam. ... Erentil FR4 Bring on the sunrise.-Legendary . A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. [/quote] The incredibly low charge time with backup plan makes them fire at close to the same speed as shotguns but with triple the range. I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. Ive vooped an entire team of 6 within a second or 2 of each other with this multiple times. You are losing a considerably large player base because of this and I hope you take into consideration to look into this and give it the tweaking it deserves. I love it! because you died to it? It’s does not have a large usage in survival. But especially slow fusions are about positioning and brain skill, since they're super slow and if improperly played, you're done for. This is a great roll and my workhorse before I got some better rolls in the menagerie. yet stats show that shotguns, snipers and hand cannons are the most common weapons in comp. Erentil FR4 - Void fusion rifle. Liquid Coils gives you even more impact at the cost of a … [/quote] Energy Fusion Rifle Hollow Words Holes for the whole.- Legendary . [/quote] The gun doesn’t map anyone in actual crucible matches. Other than that....um....map awareness? [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. Erentil FR4 is one of the best possible Fusion Rifles for PvP and Gambit. Classes are broken down into Impact Archetypes. [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. If anything it's a issue with high impact fusions. That’s why I never see it. Won't ever be the best possible fusion but it's very forgiving and consistent when ammo is managed. Firmly Planted and Backup Plan perks and Range Masterwork will grant you the great range and stability to turn fusion rifle into a … Also on Shotguns, think about what parts of the map are less favorable to them and try to force the fight in those locations. Sloth9230 (Topic Creator) 1 year ago #25. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Proof? Stop crying. I agree Rangefinder is a great perk, especially if you didn't get a high-zoom scope in the first slot. You got all the toys, but you don’t like Fusions, huh?? PvE roll: Firmly Planted, Rampage. Tracker : Kill Tracker, Crucible Tracker. Firmly Planted and Backup Plan perks and Range Masterwork will grant you the great range and stability to turn fusion rifle into a sniper one. I've tested and found Range Finder gives a tighter spread than Tap The Trigger. So of course Erentil is gonna be excessive in comp. Depending on your playstyle, there are three top-tier options: Firmly Planted - If you love slide-shotting, this is hands down the best perk for you. No need to keep spreading the dead memes about this gun, do what good players do and adapt when you actually run across one in your games. Our team of professional boosters will help you get any number of drops … Blowing shit up is a lot more fun than spending 10 minutes to beat a boss. A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. Loading, please wait. Matchmaking sucks, plain and simple. By continuing to use this site, you agree to the updated policies documented at, {{client.users[message.memberFromId].displayName}}. This is my "main" erentil, nearing 8k kills with it so far and its downright filthy in crucible. [quote] A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. Bungie are at least fixing an issue with aim assist that made sprays sometimes piss damage away bending towards heads but … [/quote] If you watch gameplay footage of players using the gun for high kill games you see that they get most of those kills at <20m against running at them in the open, or standing still out of cover. The only change that's at all something that I'd say yes to is buffing Backup Plan, but having it be moved to Plan C only. Low reload speed. Recipe: Slot 1 – Rune of Excess + Slot 2 – Any blue Rune. I do want to clarify, that even with these perks, the insane 60m kills and disgusting kill streaks people have been sharing are NOT guaranteed. It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. Soliciting/Plagiarism/Phishing/Impersonation, This site uses cookies to provide you with the best possible user experience. If you'd like to hear more in-depth discussion of other weapons and their perks, check out the Massive Breakdown Podcast! Mid-range is 35 meters, guess where fusions lose consistency? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CruciblePlaybook community. And refer above for Backup Plan. For the magazine, IMO Particle Repeater is the top choice (at least for console) where stability makes a huge difference, but Projection Fuse gives a nice boost to range and is no slouch either. Backup Plan - Allows for a blazingly fast charge rate immediately after swapping. If there are no bolded perks, it means that I feel any of the listed perks are fine to use in the slot. CruciblePlaybook is a subreddit for discussing strategies and techniques for Destiny's Crucible. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the updated policies documented at, Our policies have recently changed. I've had a number of people ask me about doing a breakdown of Erentil recommended perks, and I've held off on it because I didn't want to draw more attention to just how good the gun is, but I figure it's popular enough now that people have taken notice. Stop charging into fusions, or back up. I'm shocked Range Finder isn't listed as the ideal. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But in survival, don't you play to win? Which other perks did you get? Especially on a backup plan roll? PvP, limited maps and stuff and a meta that's been more or less the same few guns for over a year now. Sometimes even quadruple. Sights - Signal MS5/Impulse MS3, Transmission MS7, Flash HS5, Torch HS3, Magazine - Particle Repeater/Projection Fuse, Enhanced Battery, Trait 1 - Firmly Planted/Under Pressure/Moving Target, Hip-Fire Grip, Auto-Loading Holster, Snapshot Sights, Trait 2 - Backup Plan/Tap the Trigger, High-Impact Reserves, Rangefinder, Rampage/Kill Clip. [/quote] 6:28. Keep erentil but remove backup plan from fusions. Grants reduced charge time and increased handling speed for a short time immediately after swapping to this weapon. You aren't gonna use an Erentil in Trials so it literally doesn't matter that it's called at 1060 Well yeah but they might put trials back in the game at some point, and even make it possible to go flawless on PC, so it will eventually matter that you don't have a high impact fusion to take in there Over 20K crucible kills with it. That is what's wrong with the game. [/quote] I’ve got this roll and have racked up over 300 kills in the past two weeks. Like all fusions, it shines when it's too far for a shotgun and when you can't stand sniper's zooming or flinching. Report Add more answer options. With Jennifer Lopez, Alex O'Loughlin, Michaela Watkins, Eric Christian Olsen. Some of the possible rolls on this weapon are Firmly Planted and Backup Plan that will help you snipe or quickly drawn and charge your new fusion rifle to counter any close-ranged enemy. Players have never stopped playing over one weapon, not even when LoW was mapping from 20 meters. And the perk , "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. Rampage is easier to proc, but really just makes the 4 bolt kills a more sure thing. The fact is it’s the 5th most used energy weapon and the 5th most used special weapon in survival. Backup plan + auto loading holster make the weapon a really solid pvp and pve option. For just things like Barrel and Sight stats, you can go to the BSMT Visual Tool. Very low stability and handling. If you have data to present that suggests it’s overpowered go ahead, but there isn’t any. It’s better to control your charge rate yourself and get the consistency of using other perks in that slot. So shotguns, pulses, and [i] especially[/i] hand cannons need an emergency hotfix based on this logic, even off the top of my head, they're all higher usage. Nice Revoker. I have around 10k kills between my Erentils, and there's a reason you don't see novice players sharing those same clips. Charge time is now set to match the Rapid-Fire's sub-archetype * 0.85 while active. This is not a comprehensive list of every perk available in the pools, just the ones I recommend. I have heard of some people who opt to only use 1 scavenger perk to further take advantage of this. If you would like a different or more specific comparison than what I have listed, feel free to ask and I can provide one in the comments. MP50005. Edit: I was extremely upset at the time of this posting because I faced 3 erentils and a jotunn in survival and also faced it twice again a couple of matches later. Works on every shot, so it's better than something like rampage or kill clip. [quote]Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Kill Clip/Rampage - Kill Clip has the incredible effect of making the gun only take 3 bolts to kill (which means insane kill distances) but I find it difficult to consistently use in PvP. [/quote] Season 9: Season of Dawn Tap the Trigger - Like Moving Target, an amazing passive boost to the gun that greatly increases accuracy and stability on the initial trigger pull (which for fusions is basically every trigger pull). The roll I main is Signal, Particle Repeater, Under Pressure, Rangefinder, Range MW. A rifle is a mid to long range weapon. I have an under pressure/high impact reserves and I love it. Timeline's Vertex is a returning Adaptive Frame Fusion Rifle to Destiny 2 Season of the Worthy. Backup Plan might have been nerfed, but Erentil FR4 is still one of the best Fusion Rifles in Destiny 2. Why? stock erentil with no firmly planted, rangefinder, masterwork, or high impact btw. This is a topic about telesto. [/quote] Your role as a moderator enables you immediately ban this user from messaging (bypassing the report queue) if you select a punishment. Also, wish it was taken it out of managerie and make it only available via Gunsmith. I'd argue that they might need another nerf, granted ARs need to actually be competitive before touching Cannons again. But so is Luna/NF and you can't use both those and Erentil at the same time. I haven't experience the same results in my gameplay. Edit [/quote] A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. It's easily the most deadly perk combo if you take advantage of backup plan on every shot. Pros and Cons are determined by comparing weapons within the same class, not by all weapons in general, and not by only the weapons within the archetype. ERENTIL FR4 – VOID FUSION RIFLE. Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. Trait: Backup Plan, Kill Clip, Rampage, Rangefinder, Quickdraw, Tap the Trigger. Quick two taps after swapping to that weapon may result in pretty high boss dps or elite clearing method. Nice Badlander. [quote] It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. Do that and you won’t have anything to complain about anymore. Fusions did get a target acquisition buff. If I had to choose one erentil to take to a desert island it would be this one. If you're too close charging in mindlessly yeah, you're a target. Boosts damage to 50-51 on the last 2-3 shots in the mag, which helps to guarantee the 4 bolt kills and acts to extend the range and lethality outside of normal damage drop off. Aztecross 136,093 views. This except get one with back up plan because it’s so easy to abuse in PvP I have an Erentil with Backup Plan and Snapshot. Post, Lone Wolf-Semi Retired Guardian - Console needs stability a lot more than PC does. Nice Dust Rock. And the perk, "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. This is a joke. You are losing a considerably large player base because of this and I hope you take into consideration to look into this and give it the tweaking it deserves. Long zoom is king here. So consistent from medium range. Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Fusion is nuclear power. Ehhhhhhhhh, I disagree with taking it out of Menagerie. Even if you look at console only, which you shouldn’t because you should look at all platforms when considering balance changes that effect all platforms, it is not the most used special weapon OR energy weapon. Remember kids, It's better to be a fusion monkey than a shotgun ape like mr Dust Rock Blues here, If you remove backup plan you gotta bring back Plan C. [quote]Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Pros - Low bolts to kill. If Erentil was a free ticket to Legend, every noob in the game would be using it, yet they use the weapons listed above a lot more. A woman conceives twins through artificial insemination, then meets the man of her dreams on the very same day. 1 year ago on Xbox. Tap the Trigger - Like Moving Target, an amazing passive boost to the gun that greatly increases accuracy and stability on the initial trigger pull (which for fusions is basically every trigger pull). It may not be visible in wall testing, but it's definitely there against live Guardians, and that's something TTT has that RF does not. A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. [/quote] [url=https://streamable.com/5zfen]from today, my first time ever using erentil[/url] Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. [quote]A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win,[/quote] Medium range weapons should be effective at medium range, end of story. Backup Plan is a fantastic perk that mitigates its low handling stat, Rangefinder gives it better long-distance capabilities, and Under Pressure/High-Impact Reserves work well with the typically low Special ammo availability in Crucible. Comment Reply Start Topic. The Bolded Perk/Perks in each slot mean that I recommend using them the most. Thats what I thought With mine, you're dead before Telesto can even make first impact. High skill ceiling, but it takes some getting used to. I think the range is pretty insane and annoying but tolerable. Found a few good Rolls, but hunderd erentils later this roll still eludes me :'(, I love my under pressure back up plan one. How to obtain: Found in the tower purchased through the gunsmith or farmed at the Menagerie. Yet you feel like you have to complain about erentil? [quote]You are losing a considerably large player base because of this[/quote] So nice. Erentil makes me believe in the existence of an RNG Higher Power, and that Higher Power clearly likes to torment me. It's been Spam Cannon, maybe Pulse/Shotgun or Sniper for the most part since the weapon slot and TTK changes, the only real difference is a few challengers to that have come and gone like Recluse. It is the gun I am maining at the moment. Posting in language: Edit Preview B I U … [quote]It needs a range nerf[/quote] Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. So let's talk perks! [quote]especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. Reeeeeeeeeeee Nerf Fusion Rifles reeeeeeeee, I think that backup plan is the only truly broken thing. The reason why it is one of the best Fusion Rifles in D2 is that its damage is quite high and with Back-Up Plan, perk makes it a very powerful weapon along with some good customization options. I agree with removing BUP, but that's it. They're losing a large part of the playerbase because they aren't properly... What's the word? The Beloved sniper rifle is highly sought after because Destiny veterans claim it is one of best snipers in the game and feels just like popular Destiny 1sniper rifles like LDR-5001. There is literally no counterplay at all to that. Even with backup plan, you still have to use strategy and know when to switch over to the fusion- switch too soon, and backup plan goes away (very quickly), switch too late, and you are left with a long charge that can be countered by literally any shotgun or pistol in the game. Erentil FR4 is one of the best possible Fusion Rifles for PvP and Gambit. For all the numbers and a full list of guns, the Weapon Stats Spreadsheet has you covered. I had a roll with high impact reserves but the accuracy at times wasn't quite there. While I love backup plan I prefer the consistency of my first roll. If you stand at 40 meters and stand still, you're dead. That includes PC which has the highest % of active players playing the game post new light. Solar Erentil, rolled with backup plan and firmly planted. I still stand by my argument to nerf erentil, if not it's range, backup plan for sure. - One-Two Punch: The effect now ends upon dealing melee damage or swapping weapons. If you compete in hc range without cover, you're dead. Copying my response to the same question from another person: PC or Console? Press J to jump to the feed. Novice of Experience FR Player? By continuing to use this site, you agree to the policies documented at, Our policies have recently changed. Another great way to deal with shotgun demons is any fusion rifle with Backup plan. These are strictly my opinions, so I'm very aware that a lot of people will probably disagree with them. #9. You can get Timeline's Vertex by finding legendary engrams or by opening up faction rank packages. Backup plan should go to plan c. Same thing goes with low zoom sniper rifles with quickdraw/snapshot. It has 1% usage in survival. The increased battery size means you get to take advantage of the other two perks hitting hard more often. lnSilico. Feels way better than any of my similar TtT rolls. Erentil FR4 has a very long charge time of 860, but does very high damage. Bungie, don't take this guy's advice. There is no need to try and be over dramatic and try and claim the game is losing players because of a gun that isn’t overpowered and doesn’t need a nerf. (Console), I wish I could roll one. Cancel Preferred masterwork? It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. [quote]It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. 1/22/2021 2:37:43 AM, Download on the AppStore But Spam Cannons are stupid easy to use and incredibly bloated in pretty much every aspect other than damage falloff. A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. [quote]A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. Erentil FR4 (BACKUP PLAN) High Impact Fusion Rifle | Destiny 2 Forsaken - Duration: 6:28. The gun is balanced and serves a role in countering the meta loadout of shotgun + handcannon. But running away isn’t really a counter, when something can only be countered by running from it it is overpowered imo. STFU with Nerf talks. As-is, it's pretty gimmicky and best spent on other perks, such as Grenadier, of buffs to consistency. Perk Retuning General nerf: - Backup Plan: Backup plan now adjusts impact to match the Rapid-Fire sub-archetype while active. Create Fireteam I have a PvE Erentil with Rampage and hip-fire grip that feels pretty good. Timeline's Vertex is a Future War Cult Fusion Rifle and has returned to us with new, random rolls. Biggest Victims: Erentil FR4. In what sounds like an attack on the Erentil FR4 and any children it may bear, fusion rifles are getting nerfs to range-range violence and the Backup Plan perk. It’s always players like YOU who complain about erentil. If you're loaded up on stability or range already, might be worth it to go in the other direction for the masterwork. Got this with particle repeater and impulse, range mw. Literally takes the only negative about them (slow charge time) and says "nah fam." You can adapt to perform well against fusions by not pushing fusion users out of cover, not stand in the middle of lanes spamming your primary at them, and not peek corners when you hear the very loud audio queue of a fusion charging. If you can't get long zoom scopes, then Flash and Torch are next on the list as medium zooms. Erentil is overpowered? [/quote] You are not allowed to view this content. FFS he got a exotic weapon core when he completed it. Although Backup Plan and Tap the Trigger are the two best perks in the last slot, there are some other very good options I'd like to talk about: High Impact Reserves - My personal favorite, mostly because of how well it pairs with Under Pressure. Erentil FR4 has a very long charge time of 860, but does very high damage. Another roll though that shouldn’t be over looked is under pressure, high impact reserves along with enhanced battery. [quote]A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. They won't because the stats they use as a basis for nerfing weapons show PvP is overpopulated with Shotguns and Snipers, not Fusions. i dont use fusion rifles ever, but need to do the iron banner quest Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Both are much better than Telesto.But do they explode? Erentil - Backup Plan, Snapshot, medium zoom, Ionized Epicurean - Backup Plan, Tap the Trigger, Particle Repeater, Small Bore Still trying out different mods on them though. Also, wish it was taken it out of managerie and make it only available via Gunsmith. Edit: I was extremely upset at the time of this posting because I faced 3 erentils and a jotunn in survival and also faced it twice again a couple of matches later. Timeli [quote]You are losing a considerably large player base because of this[/quote] Not as much as NF, LH, DRB, Revoker, Beloved, Mindbenders and other weapons. [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. Ever since D2 dropped, I have been getting Erentil after Erentil after Erentil as Banshee engram rewards, and I always sharded them. Give it a shot, fall in love, and then join me in dreading the inevitable nerf. It feels so dirty. User Info: Sloth9230. At best, 35-ish meters. What we have to remember is that it's not just bolt spread we're looking at here, but also the increase in accuracy which makes the bolts more likely to hit the target. [/quote] Nerfing a viable gun out of viability would just make the META more oppressive, the game less varied, and the game less fun. I threw the last one I got in my vault not caring about the roll but to use as my collection piece. High impact, range, and aim assist. My preferred roll is firmly planted and tap the trigger. Get it on Google play. Signal MS5 and Impulse MS3 are my preferred choices, but beware you will take a handling hit. I still stand by my argument to nerf erentil, if not it's range, backup plan for sure. I prefer Flash, as it has 1 more zoom (but 3 less range) and actually offers a handling boost instead of a penalty, like Torch. You can basically switch to it as you slide and fire off a blast before your enemy can react. This advice comes from experience. Now its not showing anywhere. [/quote] Why not? Stompees, luna’s howl, and drb. Menagerie need a bigger loot pool, tho, add more guns to it. Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Erentil FR4: Erentil is a ... You'll want Firmly Planted/Rangefinder if you plan on hitting people from range, while Snapshot Sights/Backup Plan is ideal for close-quarters combat. A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. I'd be interested in seeing your testing on that. Someone is around a corner, you see them on your radar and back up so you don’t get shotgunned, they slide and swap at the same time vaporizing you in .4 seconds. It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. Bone Structure perk combo if you get quickdraw Backup plan, kill clip, Rampage, Rangefinder, mw! The Rapid-Fire sub-archetype while active % of active players playing the game post new light ever be the best fusion. 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